Should I stay or should I go? A common question married women ask when they start to investigate a troubled marriage. Is this really abuse? How do I know the difference?
I remember when I first uttered those words. I was sitting in the master bathroom with the door closed and the fan on trying to drown out that I was on the phone with a friend from our former church. We had just moved 50 miles away to be closer to my (former) husband’s career and she was wanting to know how I was doing.
I told her… I think I’m being abused!
I didn’t want to believe that could be true. I thought we had just a normal troubled marriage, that would eventually improve with time. I’m not sure how the call ended but I remember her saying, yeah, I think you are too. She then ordered me a couple of books from Amazon (many from my resources page), sending them to her house, to give to bring to me later.
What I didn’t realize is that my husband was listening outside the door and heard the phrase that even I found hard to hear out of my mouth. But instead of asking me how I was feeling, what I was going through, or how he could help me feel more loved in the marriage, he screamed in my face that he was not abusing me. I was crazy to think or especially tell someone else these things.
I believe my marriage started out troubled, only to become worse, not better, over time.
A troubled marriage.
Conflict in a marriage is normal. Although most people don’t enjoy conflict it is necessary and can be resolved in a healthy way. Two different people coming together to share a home, life, and often personal space together. One may be more organized than the other. One may be a money saver while the other is a spender. Establishing boundaries and responsibilities, take time and work. Operating with different forms of communication, eventually, miscommunication happens.
Over time, a troubled marriage gets better as each party is working to de-escalate arguments, compromise, build intimacy and integrity while repair hurt feelings. They realize no marriage is perfect but are both trying to come to a middle ground, each respecting the other person in the relationship. There’s no competition about who’s right and who’s wrong, just two people working as a team.
Furthermore, time and space away from the other spouse is done to process what has happened and what could be done better next time. Speaking to a trusted friend or counselor for advice to continue the growth and healing. A sincere apology that includes, how can I make it up to you, usually ensues after. And both parties are feeling more and more mutually secure and safe to be themselves in the relationship, with love, honor, and respect.
An abusive marriage.
Being in an abusive marriage is something totally different from miscommunication or having arguments – even hurtful ones. An abusive relationship is defined by one person holding all of the power over the dynamics of the relationship. There is often a winner and the loser in arguments. And the winner will fight to the death of the marriage and worth of the spouse.
The abuser will even control the dialog that happens outside of the relationship. I was scolded when I talked to my friend because he thought any conversation about him was ruining our marriage. I wasn’t allowed to seek advice from trusted friends or go alone to counseling. It wasn’t safe to openly share how I was feeling to him or to others. When I did, it only caused more conflict, which I clearly tried to avoid (I’ve overcome that since my divorce).
In a healthy marriage, the other party listens to the feelings of the other person. In contrast, an abuser hears everything as criticism so everything that is said is either ignored or rebuked as wrong. A woman’s natural need to be heard in the relationship is not accepted. You’re not allowed to have feelings unless they line up with what the abuser believes.
Even in marriage counseling with an abuser, he will control the dynamics and manipulate all parties, including counselors, to further the abuse. What you say, even in counseling, will be brought up later as the reasons why there are problems in the marriage. That’s why marriage counseling does not work with an abuser, he will just continue his attack and blameshifting.
When should we attend marriage counseling?
I often get asked if I think a wife should go to marriage counseling with her husband. (I want to make sure I have it somewhere to point people to.) Some abusive men will either deny any form of counseling (often calling the profession a bunch of quacks) or he’ll insist on joint marital counseling to keep the abusive marriage together – even after adultery.
That is why the answer depends on if you are in a normal marriage with conflict or in an abusive marriage (with or without infidelity). If you think there might be abuse (even just a little bit), then you should ONLY seek counseling on your own to identify what you’re dealing with (with help from someone experienced in abuse), how to establish boundaries and assertively deal with any conflict or infidelity (even financial). If you meet with a counselor (or Pastor) who doesn’t take your concerns seriously, then you find another counselor. You need to be heard and believed!
Yes, this is hard. Not only are you dealing with conflict at home and don’t want to deal with it at a counselor’s office. But as I tell my clients, every single time is another time to practice asserting boundaries – an honest, licensed counselor will see this. If you need help with finding a licensed counselor or establishing boundaries in a conflict situation, I’d love to help you. A quick consult can be purchased right from this website.
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God bless your healing journey,
Kathy B. says
I feel you Jen. This is all 100% true. They show anger instead of sadness and compassion that you are in pain. I remember too that my ex’s affect was inappropriately positive throughout counseling even though I was crying and devastated that the marriage might not last. I am sorry you too went through all of this ?, it was baffling and extremely stressful at the time.
Jen Grice says
I know I needed to go through what I’ve been through to share and comfort others. We can all share our stories so others know it when they see it in their own marriage.
Gail S. says
What a great overview. Thank you, Jen! I am often still reeling from the fact that I remained in my abusive marriage for over twenty years. I kept trying to “fix” the marriage and did not recognize that I was married to a complete and total narcissist. I look back, through your articles, and on my own, and have to forgive myself over and over again for not leaving earlier. As the marriage progressed, I found myself unable to leave, due to health and financial issues. Thank God that my Social Security back pay finally gave me that opportunity; and I am now thriving out here on my own…w/the help of dear friends. Yes, I am blessed and I praise God for that truth. My own writing is geared toward helping women as well; so I understand your heart’s desire to aid those in distress. Blessings to you for doing what you do and for sharing what you share. Thank you.
Jen Grice says
You’re welcome! I’m so glad you were able to get out and are thriving now. 🙂
Amy says
This was very validating for me. I heard some of the same things. I also was scolded for talking to friends about our relationship, and even was told that it was cheating. I started seeing a therapist and was told that was definitely cheating because my innermost thoughts belonged to him. Once, before I left for an appointment, he laid on top of me, telling me how hurtful it was that I would share my feelings with anyone else and how it was damaging our relationship. At this stage, I was actually seeing a domestic violence therapist, he did not know that. I was getting the validation that I so desperately needed and the support and planning I needed to leave. I am still seeking validation every day that leaving was the right thing.
Jen Grice says
Wow, thanks for sharing Amy. Sounds like you’re on the right path. Glad to have you along on this journey to healing.
Rob says
It is so relatable – thank you.
I am a male – far from who this page is for and about, however that is the only difference.
As I am writing it, I am uncontrollably shaking at the the discovery I’ve just made; I lost control of my body about a month ago when I realised I was being acutely gaslighted by my ex, who as we speak is damaging everything I have – my awesome relationship with our two children (9, 16) – who until 2-3 days ago would always come to me when their mummy was vile to them.
I am looking at contours of my daughter’s hand drawn on paper. The art work is titled “my dreams”… and on it each finger has got an inscription – five dreams of a 9-year old vulnerable, super sensitive child… The little finger says: “wishes that her mom loved her”; the thumbs says “wishes was not adopted”… It breaks my heart to be looking at it, just like when I saw it several weeks ago in her room – like many a time when she came to me sobbing and telling me “Mummy doesn’t love me.” – “Of course, she does,” would always be my reaction, “she just shows it differently.”
The Dreams hand I found today on top a letter my daughter wrote to me on Father’s Day… Yes, you guessed it right -in it she said how much she loves me… These two little treasures were buried at the bottom of email and long WhatsApp messages print-offs – the most recent one only from 3 days ago… In those messages, I was extolling how much I love and appreciate my new partner, and asking her not too worry after I missed her message she wasn’t going to be able to see me as her father felt worse… and I still went to our randezvous, with my phone not working, unaware she wasn’t coming.
We met six months ago, when I wasn’t looking for anyone… I was in survival mode after separation some 13 months before (no, I wasn’t the leaving party; I was the one ensuring as little as possible changes for the children – they stayed with me.
These innocent calm messages full of gratitude, were printed sent from my email to my ex’s one – yes, by her in person, who went on my computer and read “all the emails, messages, my notes” [poems, etc.] – to repeat after my ex. And then she span a story on how I was going to leave my amazing children behind for a new woman who is with me only for money [which I don’t have in copious amounts – for the money I am going to generate in this new chapter of my life], and traumatised our angels with this narrative, wrote messages from my son’s phone [he admitted that], and informed my daughter hates me, and my son doesn’t want to see me…
Fast-forward a few days and I found printed off snippets of all my private life emailed to her private account, which she exploited to turn my children against me, my new partner’s and mine pure love and respect for each other tarnished and dragged through mud…, with which she is still attacking me.
I informed her what she did was illegal – breach of private information of two individuals and that she needs to demonstrate disposal of all the harvested private information and to cease harassing me and the children with it, to take back her threats she would make my partner’s life difficult, and that she would task her partner with doing the same or worse, and to stop broadcasting all this stolen information to her friends or I fill file for injunction to prevent her from all of this (it is also criminal what she has done) – her response? Laughed in my face and yelled at me that I am not going to bully her into submission… Seeking sense in it all, or appealing to her common sense only makes things worse by the minute… Why do I even bother after some good 20 years of it? Why do I still question her logic, or her humanity? Why? I just want to be left alone to live my life in peace at last, however it is worse and worse. I can’t cut her our like cancer – she is my children’s mother, and it is after each few-day interaction she has with them I find myself repair damage she causes to the young minds of my children…
A life story – just like thousands out there… and yet we still share… 😉